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I just wish iTunes was more intuitive about all naming conventions, though I don't know how it could work. Why can't 'Dave Matthews Band' be listed under Matthews instead of Dave? Anyone else find this obnoxious, or figured out a way around the problem?
 Thx,
 John-o
Seems like Dave Matthew's Band would be sorted under 'D' in most music stores as well... but regardless of that, I don't see how you could expect the artists that are first + last name to be automatically sorted anyway. The app would have to somehow know if it was a person's first and last name, and not just any two words, or something that looks like a name, but is really just the group name (like, Luscious Jackson or Marcie Playground or Mr. T Experience), or something that is a person's name but doesn't look like it (Mazzy Star, Jello Biafra). Taking out a leading 'the' is simple and is common practice.
I believe the ID3 spec contains a tag for sorting. So you could have Dave Mathews displayed as the artist, but you could make the sorting tag say 'Mathews Dave.' All we need is for iTunes to support this.
 Chris
There is provision in the ID3 standard (the tagging mecanism for mp3, used by iTunes and others to store info in the mp3 files) to add a sort order for album, performer and song. 
For this to work, iTunes should support these tags (and allow you to edit them), and they also should be supported by CDDB. 
mp3rage (http://www.chaoticsoftware.com) supports some of them, I suppose. 
From the id3.org website: 

 TSOA 
 The 'Album sort order' frame defines a string which should be used 
 instead of the album name (TALB) for sorting purposes. E.g. an album 
 named 'A Soundtrack' might preferably be sorted as 'Soundtrack'. 
 TSOP 
 The 'Performer sort order' frame defines a string which should be 
 used instead of the performer (TPE2) for sorting purposes. 
 TSOT 
 The 'Title sort order' frame defines a string which should be used 
 instead of the title (TIT2) for sorting purposes. 
This does not work in iTunes 3.0.1 (b66), running in Swedish under OSX 10.1.5. Too bad, really, I certainly dislike to have songs by a band called just 'Band'...
As you loyal OS X users should know, this problem (which may apply to other non-english localizations as well) can be remedied by just choosing Get info… on iTunes in the Finder and de-select the language (Swedish, for instance) that does not support this sort order. Then you will run the English version (or whatever your language preferences are!). Despite this problem, you really gotta love Apple for thinking of such a thing! Also check out the natural sort order feature mentioned earlier. 
And how will 'The The' be sorted?
 (I know... I wanted to be the first to post this!)
 OK, it goes in my list between 'The Style Council' and 'Tom Jones'.
I have a bunch of German songs, and most of those groups start with 'die' (which is the German plural 'the'), and these groups are sorted like 'the' as well. Also, I'm not using the German localized OS either. I don't know of any groups that start with the English word 'die' (as in dead), but I imagine it might get treated like the German 'the' as well.
We have a script, Artist 'Last,First', which takes the first word of the Artist Name and attaches it with a comma at the end: 'Die Fledermaus' is rendered as 'Fledermaus,Die'. Doug Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes
What about Madonna's 'Die Another Day'?
Don't run the script on that one ;)
I think this is a new feature in iTunes 3. Mine knows about 'The' in English artists' names, but not about 'Les' in Les Négresses Vertes.
 In contrast, my iPod with software version 1.2.1 sorts artists ignoring 'The' and 'Les', in both English French names.
the spanish the, 'Los' is treated like a proper name
The Story Of The Shinobu Mac Os DownloadDon't even get me started on iTunes and iPod sorting conventions. iTunes 
 does it right: ``The' is ignored. And it doesn't screw around with foreign 
 analogs of ``The' (etc.) either.
 However, my iPod will (for instance) sort ``De La Soul' right after 
 ``La Monte Young' instead of right after ``David Bowie.' The ``A' in 
 ``A Tribe Called Quest' is ignored too. This pops-up about 15-20 times 
 out of the 300-odd artists on my iPod. Really very annoying.
The Story Of The Shinoboo Mac Os CatalinaIf you want artists to show up correctly, such as Tori Amos being listed under A instead of T just do a batch rename to Amos, Tori. That's the only solution I've found. The only other way would have something built-in to iTunes to flag certain artists as individuals rather than bands.